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[http://www.abmetal.ch/blumol_catalog.pdf Blu Mol]<br> | [http://www.abmetal.ch/blumol_catalog.pdf Blu Mol]<br> | ||
[http://www.lenoxsaw.com/holesaw.htm Lennox]<br> | [http://www.lenoxsaw.com/holesaw.htm Lennox]<br> | ||
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| + | Most [http://catalog.starrett.com/catalog/catalog/groups.asp?GroupID=199 general use] hole saws have a variable pitch. The [http://catalog.starrett.com/catalog/catalog/groups.asp?GroupID=358 sheet metal] saws will have a finer straight pitch. These sheet metal hole saws are the ones to use for thin bicycle tubing. They may not be available over the counter and may require an order to MSC or Grainger. | ||
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| + | Constant pitch left, variable pitch right.<br> | ||
| + | [[Image:Hole-saw-1.jpg]]<br> | ||
| + | The package of a Starrett constant pitch 1.500" saw.<br> | ||
| + | [[Image:Hole-saw-2.jpg]]<br> | ||
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| + | ===Awsome Metric Hole Saws=== | ||
| + | [http://www.omalutensili.it/index.asp?l=UK Omal]<br> | ||
| + | [http://www.omalutensili.it/dl.asp?f=OMAL-Catalogue.pdf OMAL p.9-10] | ||
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| + | ===Facing the hole Saw=== | ||
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| + | The paint must be removed from the back of the hole saw so that it meets the arbor as square as possible. | ||
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| + | A light lapping shows that this saw would have been prone to a slight wobble.<br> | ||
| + | [[Image:Hole saw11.jpg]]<br><br> | ||
| + | [[Image:Hole saw12.jpg]] | ||
===Sharpenable Hole Saws=== | ===Sharpenable Hole Saws=== | ||
| + | Several types of sharpenable hole saws exist. some have carbide tips. Others are made of thick tool steel. | ||
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| + | Nova sells some of the tool steel types, made by [http://www.novacycles.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=74&sort=3a&filter_id=20 Nortac] | ||
===Arbors=== | ===Arbors=== | ||
| − | + | ==Comercial Arbors== | |
Most hole saw manufacturers provide some way of holding the saw. This is usually done in a less than precise way. | Most hole saw manufacturers provide some way of holding the saw. This is usually done in a less than precise way. | ||
[http://www.starrett.co.uk/downloads/saws/hole_saws/starrett_arbors.pdf Starrett Arbor Info] | [http://www.starrett.co.uk/downloads/saws/hole_saws/starrett_arbors.pdf Starrett Arbor Info] | ||
| + | ==Handmade Arbors== | ||
| + | The natrual solution is to take some precision shaft and thread the end for what ever hole saw size you need. This has the advantage of being able to make an extended arbor. | ||
| + | Here is one that I made years ago.<br> | ||
| + | [[Image:Hole saw1.jpg]]<br><br> | ||
| + | ==Paragon== | ||
| + | Paragon Machine Works can supply arbors like this for very little money. Between $5 and $10 depending on the length. | ||
| − | + | [[Image:Paragon arbors.jpg]] | |
| + | ==Other Arbors== | ||
For improved precision and more ridgid foundation to your saws, use an arbor For threaded drill chucks. These are available from several suppliers, but one of the cheapest I found was [http://www.victornet.com Victor Machinery Exchange, Inc.] | For improved precision and more ridgid foundation to your saws, use an arbor For threaded drill chucks. These are available from several suppliers, but one of the cheapest I found was [http://www.victornet.com Victor Machinery Exchange, Inc.] | ||
| − | + | VME threaded drill chuck arbor: | |
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DCA-1/2-1220 1/2" Straight to 1/2"-20 Drill Chuck Arbor $5.90<br> | DCA-1/2-1220 1/2" Straight to 1/2"-20 Drill Chuck Arbor $5.90<br> | ||
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| − | + | The BIG PROBLEM! Hole Saws are threaded for 5/8"-18 not 5/8"-16 as is commonly available for drills. | |
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| + | Then we look at threaded shanks for mounting boring bar heads. | ||
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| + | ::{| border="3" | ||
| + | |+ '''Index of 5/8-18 Threaded Shanks by Everede available from MSC''' | ||
| + | ! Shank !! Mfr's P/N !! MSC P/N !! Price | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ! 1/2" Straight Shank | ||
| + | | SHK-5818-500 || 04103453 || $45.75 || | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ! 5/8" Straight Shank | ||
| + | | SHK-5818-625 || 04103461 || $45.75 || | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ! 3/4" Straight Shank | ||
| + | | SHK-5818-750 || 04103479 || $45.75 || | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ! 1" Straight Shank | ||
| + | | SHK-5818-1000 || 04103487 || $45.75 || | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ! R8 Shank | ||
| + | | SHK-5818-R8 || 04103495 || $45.75 || | ||
| + | |} | ||
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| + | Another source of shanks is [http://www.sevcal.com/shanks.htm Sev Cal Tooling] | ||
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| + | [[Image:Hole saw2.jpg]]<br><br> | ||
| + | [[Image:Hole saw3.jpg]]<br><br> | ||
| + | The Face of the tool was crummy looking.<Br> | ||
| + | [[Image:Hole saw4.jpg]]<br><br> | ||
| + | I indicated the face as 0.0015" out.<br> | ||
| + | [[Image:Hole saw5.jpg]]<br><br> | ||
| + | Set the mill up as a lathe to face the end.<br> | ||
| + | [[Image:Hole saw6.jpg]]<br><br> | ||
| + | Much better!<br> | ||
| + | [[Image:Hole saw7.jpg]]<br><br> | ||
| + | The threads off center by as much as 0.0030". This may not be true. It was hard to indicate.<br> | ||
| + | [[Image:Hole saw8.jpg]]<br><br> | ||
| + | [[Image:Hole saw9.jpg]]<br><br> | ||
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| + | Personally, I prefer to use either a R8 or 5C tool whenever I can. They are the most ridged and accurate way of mounting a tool.<br> | ||
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| + | [[Image:Hole saw10.jpg]]<br><br> | ||
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| + | Also, for an extended R8 mounting a 5/8-18 thread saw, you can cut an R8 blank from [http://www.alliedmachine.com/Catalog/vmaxxDisplay.cfm?item=R8 Allied Machine]. At $156 for the smallest model, this is not an option at this point. Plus, you would need a 24mm collet to hold the R8 in a lathe. | ||
If you mitre on a lathe and need a 5C chuck arbor, a 5C Plug Chuck with 1-3/4" Extended Nose Length and no pilot hole should be ordered. It can be threaded for what ever saw you need. Available from [http://hardingetooling.com/PartSpec.asp?ID=10150000000000 Hardinge], P/N 10150000000000, $30.25. | If you mitre on a lathe and need a 5C chuck arbor, a 5C Plug Chuck with 1-3/4" Extended Nose Length and no pilot hole should be ordered. It can be threaded for what ever saw you need. Available from [http://hardingetooling.com/PartSpec.asp?ID=10150000000000 Hardinge], P/N 10150000000000, $30.25. | ||
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[[category:Frame Building]] | [[category:Frame Building]] | ||
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Latest revision as of 12:50, 19 September 2007
Contents
Consumable Hole Saws
Most general use hole saws have a variable pitch. The sheet metal saws will have a finer straight pitch. These sheet metal hole saws are the ones to use for thin bicycle tubing. They may not be available over the counter and may require an order to MSC or Grainger.
Constant pitch left, variable pitch right.
The package of a Starrett constant pitch 1.500" saw.
Awsome Metric Hole Saws
Facing the hole Saw
The paint must be removed from the back of the hole saw so that it meets the arbor as square as possible.
A light lapping shows that this saw would have been prone to a slight wobble.
Sharpenable Hole Saws
Several types of sharpenable hole saws exist. some have carbide tips. Others are made of thick tool steel.
Nova sells some of the tool steel types, made by Nortac
Arbors
Comercial Arbors
Most hole saw manufacturers provide some way of holding the saw. This is usually done in a less than precise way.
Handmade Arbors
The natrual solution is to take some precision shaft and thread the end for what ever hole saw size you need. This has the advantage of being able to make an extended arbor.
Here is one that I made years ago.
Paragon
Paragon Machine Works can supply arbors like this for very little money. Between $5 and $10 depending on the length.
Other Arbors
For improved precision and more ridgid foundation to your saws, use an arbor For threaded drill chucks. These are available from several suppliers, but one of the cheapest I found was Victor Machinery Exchange, Inc.
VME threaded drill chuck arbor:
DCA-1/2-1220 1/2" Straight to 1/2"-20 Drill Chuck Arbor $5.90
The BIG PROBLEM! Hole Saws are threaded for 5/8"-18 not 5/8"-16 as is commonly available for drills.
Then we look at threaded shanks for mounting boring bar heads.
Index of 5/8-18 Threaded Shanks by Everede available from MSC Shank Mfr's P/N MSC P/N Price 1/2" Straight Shank SHK-5818-500 04103453 $45.75 5/8" Straight Shank SHK-5818-625 04103461 $45.75 3/4" Straight Shank SHK-5818-750 04103479 $45.75 1" Straight Shank SHK-5818-1000 04103487 $45.75 R8 Shank SHK-5818-R8 04103495 $45.75
Another source of shanks is Sev Cal Tooling
The Face of the tool was crummy looking.
I indicated the face as 0.0015" out.
Set the mill up as a lathe to face the end.
Much better!
The threads off center by as much as 0.0030". This may not be true. It was hard to indicate.
Personally, I prefer to use either a R8 or 5C tool whenever I can. They are the most ridged and accurate way of mounting a tool.
Also, for an extended R8 mounting a 5/8-18 thread saw, you can cut an R8 blank from Allied Machine. At $156 for the smallest model, this is not an option at this point. Plus, you would need a 24mm collet to hold the R8 in a lathe.
If you mitre on a lathe and need a 5C chuck arbor, a 5C Plug Chuck with 1-3/4" Extended Nose Length and no pilot hole should be ordered. It can be threaded for what ever saw you need. Available from Hardinge, P/N 10150000000000, $30.25.
Truing Hole Saws
Hole saws may not end up perfectly round. A frame builder may have to true the saw by spinning it on a lathe and cutting material from behind the tips that extend past the cut area.
